How to fire someone from the band
October 15, 2008 by Weedback
“It’s not you, it’s me”
Nate Stiff – www.myspace.com/thepostmeridian
“There are many ways to do it, some of which may seem a little back-handed (of which I have been both a victim and ashamedly, a participant). In any case, I agree with the quick method. Nothing is worse than giving a former band member the opportunity to twist the situation around.
While it surely does sting when it happens to you, if you look at it in a professional manner, you should realize that the situation probably wasn’t right for ya anyway.”
Joseph – www.bandmix.com/joseph6
“The way it’s always been in past bands and in my current band is by band meeting.
We try to not be dicks about it but tell them why they have to go and then help them load their gear out.
Now, in my current band, it’s a bit more difficult due to legal stuff as we are each 20% owners in our band’s publishing group – so unless it’s really something serious – we are bound to each other. Can you feel the love?”
Chris – www.myspace.com/cabbamonte
“If it’s a problem that can be solved (drinking, drugs, late to practice and gigs, preparedness) let them know the problem, let them know that the situation is currently unacceptable and if it continues they will be fired. Offer to help them. Most problems can be avoided by being proactive. How you fire someone and how you replace them and the reasons for this action really set the tone for the future of the band’s relationship within the members who are left. If you do a poor job firing someone you will not solve a problem, only replace it with another.”
Chuck – www.leesjunction.com
“Addictions should not be handled by a band mate. Its counterproductive to the recovery atmosphere that an addict would need. Besides, most bands play in bars. Would you want an alcoholic continuing to be around an atmosphere like that? No. Same thing with drugs (which are fairly prevalent in bars and around other musicians.). If your gonna be trying to kick a habit, you need to re-discover yourself. Continuing old habits is something that most addiction medicine specialists would frown upon if the habits cause problems with relapse and sobriety or compromise recovery in any shape of fashion.”
Joel – www.myspace.com/deathcheaters
Move the whole band to another country, without telling whoever it is you want to get rid of.
“I replaced a bass player in one band who was due to be fired, but simply stopped turning up to rehearsals, didn’t answer his phone, and no-one knew any other way of contacting him. I auditioned and took his place. Months later we found out he had been arrested on the way to rehearsal, convicted on quite serious assault charges, and put away for a few years.
Now THAT is one guy I would hate to have to tell he’s out of the band”.
“The biggest thing any band should do is sit all the members down and write down exactly what they want and make sure everyone is on the same page, If you arent on the same page fire someone or move on.
Make a plan and work the plan, thats the only way to have any success in anything. We layed out where we wanted to be a yr ago, we arent making quite as much as we set out to do, but we make enough for everyone to be happy and stick with the plan.”
John Wilder – http://www.myspace.com/aintyomama1
How do you do it? You do it the way you would want it done to you.
No you don’t text or email. That’s for cowards. You don’t even do it by phone. You sit down with the person, whether it be just the leader and the whole band and you tell them as respectfully as you can.
Don’t forget. Bad karma. What goes around… “
I have been in bands for 42 years. At this point, ego doesn’t become the problem because it usually enters the room before the musician sets up his/her gear for an audition. Hence, said musician never gets in. What has brought the firing of late are time restrictions and family commitments or just not enough stamina to keep the show going. These usually take a frank discussion such as “we are not on the same path here and I hope that you understand, but we need to replace you”. Simple and polite because there have usually been discussions before this. They will be angry, hurt and might even make a few comments. Let them. Help them with their gear and make sure you say “do you have everything?” to avoid acusations later that you kept their stuff. Have band mates or even a manager around if you have one just to witness the situation. I have been in bands where we fired guys for being drunks, dopers or for just being a total embarrasment at a venue. Those are always the easy ones. The thing to remember whether you are firing or being fired is: No matter who you are, there is always one person in the crowd that can play or sing better than you and has probably never even been in a band. We can all be replaced so never avoid letting someone go for fear that they can’t be. We all can.
Wammy – http://bandmix.com/wammy1/